tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post8701108814643277886..comments2024-02-27T09:33:20.185-08:00Comments on The Duchy of Burgundy Carrots: Incredibly Boring Post No One Will ReadQueen of Carrotshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03193758647591339890noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-26806817478694400322008-02-12T06:43:00.000-08:002008-02-12T06:43:00.000-08:00QOC... brilliant, as always. Thanks for laying th...QOC... brilliant, as always. Thanks for laying this out so thoughtfully and concisely. It was not at all boring.Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02803049148666438704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-88727070169268400692008-02-09T05:18:00.000-08:002008-02-09T05:18:00.000-08:00That was an awesome post!One thing that has always...That was an awesome post!<BR/><BR/>One thing that has always bothered me about the historical argument for working outside the home is that women's work "back then" and women's work now are very different. And, bringing infants to work wasn't nearly such a problem (not counting the early industrial revolution and dangerous factories), and, it usually didn't involve dropping children off with 25 other children to be cared for by non-relations. And, many times it was possible for children to work *with* their parents, even at young ages.<BR/>Our culture is completely different from the one the Proverbs 31 woman lived in, and I really don't think she is (or was intended to be) a model for a female corporate executive. :p<BR/><BR/>I certainly count it a privelage and a blessing to be able to stay at home. I also have no problem with hard work, which some people on the Other Side don't seem to understand.CappuccinosMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06707709617552413520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-61023259915960116272008-02-07T20:16:00.000-08:002008-02-07T20:16:00.000-08:00Well, I read it through and didn't find it incredi...Well, I read it through and didn't find it incredibly boring. Granted, it took me two attempts to get to the end, but that was Daphne's fault, not yours.<BR/><BR/>I know all the arguments in favor of SAHMs... I LIVE them, of course. But I love your thoughts on the Other Side. I've thought it as well, and it's true, women have not historically stayed at home to raise children. They were too busy trying not to starve. I love it when you write out what are only vague thoughts. Now I don't have to form them myself, but will just adopt what you said. :)<BR/><BR/>-- SJthe Joneseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15854341910963353734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-91469055818429553382008-02-07T10:30:00.000-08:002008-02-07T10:30:00.000-08:00I also found this post thought enriching for mysel...I also found this post thought enriching for myself. I come at this from an evolving situation. When my husband and I discussed our 'children' situation pre-marriage, I was much more of a "We'll share both the work and the children rearing."<BR/><BR/>Whereas my husband was 100% convicted that I would never work out.<BR/><BR/>Over time, our living situation became so atrocious [we averaged 30 mice caught and killed a week in that home, not to mention shovelling snow out of our living areas in the winter] that I insisted upon working to help get us out of that house and into something more homey.<BR/><BR/>My husband completely resisted the idea but I was totally concerned about the children's welfare and how the Province would view our 'provisions' for the children.<BR/><BR/>So I returned to work.<BR/><BR/>Later on, my husband finally found work that wasn't in the habit of laying him off. And the job more than meet our financial needs. So I told him it was time for me to exit the work force. Plus there was a strong need for our son to receive home school.<BR/><BR/>My husband strongly disagreed with me. Eventually I did quit. Against his wishes. But I was literally falling apart trying to do all the house stuff alone and work out full time and respond to our son's increasing needs.<BR/><BR/>Now my husband has gone so far from his initial beliefs and his childhood values. He averages 25 hours a week in overtime. Has had 1 day off without going to work at all since Christmas, and so forth.<BR/><BR/>He claims it is because I refuse to work.<BR/><BR/>We have more than enough money, really. We don't have riches, but have enough. We still have massive student loans that have been carried along simply because of our bad financial situation in the first 10 years of our marriage. <BR/><BR/>And so the struggle remains.<BR/><BR/>Your post has touched on so many thoughts mine are coming off random. But essentially, we would be better off if we valued a person's "home contributions" as much as we valued a person's monetary earning ability.<BR/><BR/>Our society would be greatly enriched if we could somehow truly realize the value of the home and its atmosphere.<BR/><BR/>anyhow... phone!Betty Canuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08737937884697051244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-26434079917689456432008-02-07T06:11:00.000-08:002008-02-07T06:11:00.000-08:00Very aptly put. I get so annoyed by the arrogance ...Very aptly put. I get so annoyed by the arrogance of people who presume to think they've single-handedly delivered the world a new concept, whether it be the feminists with their women's lib or many elements in the modern homeschool movement with their Only Biblical Way to raise a family.<BR/><BR/>Your next-to-last paragraph makes an excellent case for blogging. =)Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517116551921874843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-58684910867160224962008-02-05T22:30:00.000-08:002008-02-05T22:30:00.000-08:00I recently reminded my mom that being a stay-at-ho...I recently reminded my mom that being a stay-at-home mom in the 50s was a status symbol. It stated that your husband had arrived and could support you. Most women have had to work outside their homes (or taking in laundry, etc...in their homes) throughout history. Being able to stay home and not HAVE to do domestic work for others is really a privilege. My own mother ran childcare in her home so we could make ends meet. Radical feminism ran a huge scam on women when it told them that they should want to work outside their homes; suddenly it was a status symbol. I think most women have come to realize that being separated from their children for 40 hours a week or more is not what they want. However, in today's economy (with today's priorities taken into account), working is often a necessity for moms. Marvelously, the internet and computers have made it possible for many moms to work from home. I'm grateful for a few hours a month of work from home that helps ends meet and gives me a break from simply feeling like a domestic servant on my bad days. But I remind myself that I'm privileged that I can be home and raise my children. And not have to take diapers down to the creek to beat clean. <BR/><BR/>Enjoyed your post. There's a lot here. Deep thoughts for a busy pregnant mom with little ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-29095662022520975942008-02-05T16:52:00.000-08:002008-02-05T16:52:00.000-08:00Another excellent post!I would like to add that th...Another excellent post!<BR/><BR/>I would like to add that there is a tendency to make the possible mandatory which influences both sides of this issue.<BR/><BR/>For example: it is possible, with modern appliances, to have more clothes washed more often than in any other era. It is therefore necessary to own at least one, possibly several, outfits for each day of the week with extra for accidents, varying weather conditions, social/sporting events,etc. Multiply this times self + spouse + # of children.<BR/><BR/>That is a ton of time, cash and space dedicated just to clothing that 100 years ago would have been fantastically excessive. Extrapolate this to food, child care, housekeeping, and whatnot! <BR/><BR/>Truly, I am not advocating having only 2 sets of clothes per person nowadays! I for one have been pretty well culturally conditioned that that would be gross! Still, have you heard the phrase, "Work expands to fill the time available?"Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14745372502346991328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5831804.post-73713443571510693762008-02-05T11:37:00.000-08:002008-02-05T11:37:00.000-08:00I read every word of this post--with great interes...I read every word of this post--with great interest--because it's right up my alley as a budding "Stay-At-Home Daughter." Thank you for sharing this thoughtful and correct perspective on the work that (as the saying goes) is never done.SK: )https://www.blogger.com/profile/04918000460689027457noreply@blogger.com